"Suppresss Popup" Hotkey

[Tomalak]

I'm using Yomitan in parallel to 10ten, and this causes a clash in the popup controls.

• 10ten is my default choice, so its popup should appear directly on hover.
• Yomitan is my secondary, so I have its popup hotkey on SHIFT. However, 10ten's popup will also appear in this situation.

I could resolve this conflict by setting 10ten to show its popup when e.g. CTRL is held down, but that would mean reading a text requires a hand at the keyboard at all times vs. being able to just use the mouse. Selectively suppressing 10ten's popup on SHIFT would be an elegant solution.

Would it make sense to implement the popup hotkey controls like this:

Show popup
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10ten's popup is shown by default when the mouse is over an item.
You can control how this works below.

Text:
    [Show v] the popup, unless the following keys are held down:
    [ ] Alt [ ] Ctrl [x] Shift

Images:
    [Hide v] the popup, unless the following keys are held down:
    [ ] Alt [x] Ctrl [ ] Shift

The [Show v] / [Hide v] symbolizes a drop-down box with these two choices.

The defaults would be "Show" on and no modifier keys, so exactly as before. Thinking ahead, if a user had selected a modifier key in their existing configuration, the implicit value of "Show"/"Hide" would be "Hide".

[birtles]

Thanks for filing this. I think I understand the situation (although I feel like the real fix is just "make 10ten good enough you don't need to use Yomitan" 😅).

For the proposed UX, I think the most common case is changing the settings to only show the popup when keys are pressed so it should be [Show v] the popup when the following keys are held down and default to "Show".

I'm still a bit concerned about making the settings page more complicated, however. If we could hide the "Hide" option under "Advanced settings" or something like that I think that might be even better still. In fact, I wonder if there's some way we can make that whole setting easier to follow. It's really useful and I wish more users knew about it.

[Tomalak]

Thanks for the thoughtful response!

Yomitan has a really nice Anki interface and it provides sample sentences, so for deeper inspection, having the option to pull up a different dictionary extension is neat. Yomitan also supports a ton of languages, so if people learn e.g. Arabic in parallel, it offers something that probably is out of scope for 10ten.

On the other hand, I do realize that there's a lot going on in the issues section right now, and this is a rather niche "quality of life" request that might result in confusing UI for most users. There might not be that many people who run both extensions in parallel, or they might have gotten used to selectively disabling 10ten when there's a conflict. Not sure.

If we could hide the "Hide" option under "Advanced settings" or something like that I think that might be even better still.

It would split the section that controls how the popup works in two, probably creating headaches of its own. It's tricky to come up with an intuitive way to represent this in a UI.